WHY GOD
CAN'T SPEAK TO HUMANS
Alan Soffin with Herbert W.
Simons
Here
begins an unusual three-way conversation
among an atheist, an agnostic, and a
Christian, in which each clarifies his
own perspectives while respectfully
engaging differences in the others
positions. The hope is to explore the
value of interaction across viewpointss
rarely placed in direct conversation with
each other.
God is
infallible. Humans are not. Theism seeks
the Word of God not man to
invoke an authority for thought and
action higher than that which human
thought can provide.
But
humans unavoidably determine which words
are Gods. One cannot coherently
say, This is Gods
Wordbut I am not stating
that This is Gods
Word. And if humans are
responsible for selecting them, religious
dicta or faith claims occupy their place,
claim their hearing, based on the
authority of humans.
Hence,
such words do not rest on the authority
theism requires: the authority of God not
man. Moreover, the quest for Gods
Word is cognitively useless. Consider
that when we already know a thing,
Gods word is superfluous: We
dont ask God if the earth is round
or whether we should kill people for
sport. We dont need the Bible to
know such things.
But
where we dont know a thing, we
cannot determine the truth and therefore
cannot judge whether any proffered word
(even one inexplicably broadcast) is
Gods Word. The Word of God is
intellectually useful, then, only if we
can know it without using human judgment.
But as noted, it is nonsense to conclude
or state, This is Gods Word
and I have made no judgment on the
matter.
Theisms
standard rejoinder is that God can,
miraculously, communicate unilaterally.
Thus we can know his Word without ever
using human powers to determine that what
we heard, saw, felt, or read was
Gods Word. But this rejoinder is
itself a human judgment and therefore can
supply, at most, only the authority of
the human mind as the guarantor for
whatever word theists then say is
Gods; the same holds for all
theology.
In any
case, the argument fails. The idea that
God does a thing so as to tell us his
Word already assumes we can know
Gods Word, that is, know Gods
intent. Gods Word would
then be, I want you to know my
Word. The foregoing assumes we can
know Gods Word to conclude we can
know it. The argument is circular.
For all
these reasons, theisms basic dicta
cannot rise above human authority.
Religion cannot escape the
responsibilities of human thought. But it
tries. Since Gods intent or Word is
cited only where we think we lack
knowledge, the judgment that some word is
Gods is always intellectually
irresponsible. One asserts that a
statement is infallibly right or true
when one admits ones inability to
judge whether the proffered statement is
right or true.
In sum,
the Gods-Word dilemma stands:
Gods-Word theists must disavow
responsibility for the content of their
basic preachments. But they cannot, for
in professing that This is
Gods Word or Here is
Gods Word, they are
unavoidably responsible for what they
claim.
Postscript:
God not man is not like
laws not men. Law
refers to the authority of human rules,
precedents, and factual determinations; not
men rejects laws circumvention
by power, will, and desire. Law is about
objective judgment; God is about
transcending judgment.
Postpostscript:
The rejection of human arguments about
God by the human argument that God is not
bound by human logic is not only
circular, but if true, would render false
any statements as to what Gods
goodness, or any property of God,
entails.
Alan
L. Soffin, Doylestown, Pennsylvania,
earned his Ph.D. in philosophy
of education from the University of
Illinois in 1963 and taught at Michigan
State and Temple universities. An
award-winning private film-maker, he is
retired and writing on philosophy of
religion plus teaching at the Center for
Learning in Retirement, Delaware Valley
College.
Gods Word,
Mans Word, or Soffins Word:
Herbert W. Simons Responds
I see
my job here as critic-provocateur,
raising questions and objections that
might advance consideration of the
important issues raised in Alan
Soffins essay. Readers should know
that were old friends; indeed, we
met at an orientation for new Temple
University faculty over 40 years ago! For
nearly that long weve argued over
how to argue: he the logic-chopping
rationalist; me the muddleheaded
complexifier.
Readers
may also benefit from knowing that my
appearance in a Christian magazine is
perhaps nearly as strange as the presence
in it of my friend Alans writing.
If he is an atheist, I follow not too far
behind as one whose heritage is Jewish
but whose views are agnostic. Still, we
have been lured into these pages by my
former student Michael King, a Mennonite
pastorand the oddities multiply!
I think
both Soffin and I would agree that our
ongoing conversation has been productive.
Soffins current contribution
provides a case in point. Crisply argued,
unrelenting in its exposure of the
fallacies in what theism
says, it reinvigorates an age-old
controversy, prompting mere mortals and
perhaps God himself to wonder: who
invented whom? But Soffins
reductive logic-chops may be a source of
the problem in accounting for variations
in religious belief. He may also be
embroiled in a logical conundrum.
(1)
Consider such phrases as theism
seeks. (See also
theisms standard
rejoinder and theisms
basic dicta.) Theism who? Seekers
of what? Do Soffins arguments apply
equally well to all religious believers
and to all theistic beliefs? To those who
personify God and those who dont?
To those who are certain of Gods
existence and to those who make the leap
of faith while at the same time
acknowledging the plausibility (in purely
intellectual terms) of agnosticism or
atheism?
Does
Soffins case apply to those who
claim literally to have heard God speak,
or to have been touched by God, as
opposed to those who refer to Gods
Word, and even to God, metaphorically or
mysticallye.g., God as prime mover,
God as celestial mechanic, God as Holy
Other; God as Wholly Other? To those who
see Her/Him/It as redeemer or as
righteous father, or as earth-mother, or
as the cosmos itself?
Surely
Soffins line of argument applies
best to viewpoints of those who are
literally minded, unhesitating
personifiers. I believe it applies less
well to other believers and even to other
Gods-Word believers.
(2) Now
consider Soffins own commitment to
taking responsibility, as in not escaping
or disavowing responsibility. Does not
taking responsibility presuppose mind,
sentience, free will, choiceall
requiring a belief in something beyond
determinism, something beyond the
material, something beyond evidence in
the scientific sense?
Is not
this belief itself an act of faith, given
the absence of scientific evidence for
mind or will, and even in the face of
evidence that these may be self-serving,
hubristic illusions? Of course one can
retort that mind, will, responsibility
are useful constructs, but then so too
can believers in God and in Gods
Word take the path of pragmatism in
defending their theistic commitments.
My
appreciation to Michael King for agreeing
to the inclusion of this exchange in his
magazine. I invite Alan Soffin to have
our next word and encourage readers to
join in the conversation.
Herbert
W. Simons, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is
professor of speech communication at
Temple University and widely published in
the fields of rhetoric and communication.
Alan Soffin Responds
Surely
my friend, Herb Simons, knows that
logic-chopping is as essential to a
healthy mind as wood-chopping is to a
healthy hearth. Oh, to take an axe to a
conjunction of incompatible assertions
and split it, unlike Solomon, into two
viable, consistent claims.
But let
us now move from the delights of conversationwhose
success criterion is entertainment and
which ends by petering outand into
the realm of dialogue, whose
success criterion is truth and which ends
by some improvement in thought.
Provocation
and complexification are valuable in
testing our movement toward solutions.
But if there can be no solutions, there
can be no tests for being closer or
further away. Maybe we are here just for
fun, but, religiously speaking, I
dont think so.
(1)
Simons tells us theistic ideas differ
widely and asks to whom we can apply the
idea that Gods authority cannot be
claimed by any person. The short answer
is: to the many who claim it, not to the
few who do not. Our culture swarms with
claimed access to God-not-man, from the
Barthian claim that we passively hear God
to the argument of columnist Cal Thomas
that modern troubles began when the
Enlightenment followed the ideas of man,
not the ideas of God.
As for
the presumed gulf between literalists,
voice-hearers, and those who see God as
mysterious, ineffable, and so forth, my
criticism fails to apply only to those
non-literalists, non-voice-hearers who
would feel no loss of wisdom or moral
direction if they came to believe a God
of whatever sort never existed. If,
instead, mystics or non-literalists would
feel a loss in wisdom or direction, then
they must have felt themselves
authoritatively informed by a source not
themselves.
This
thought-experiment may help uncover the
covert God-speaks-not-man thinking which
undergirds not only the talk of mystics
who manage to extract from
ineffable moments an entire
guidebook to right living but also the
talk of those who believe in
inspired thoughts or texts.
My contention here is that wherever a
text differs from what man alone would
have written, then the difference is
written by God-not-man.
Inspiration is inerrancy
dressed for sophisticated company.
(2)
Simons second comment addresses the
whole philosophy of mind. I shall attempt
a useful response, given the constraints
of space: Yes, responsibility presupposes
free will, sentience, choice;
is inconsistent with universal
determinism; is not a physical condition;
and is technically difficult to argue
for. But our lives seem to turn on
non-physical realities (like rights,
decency, beauty, truth, logic).
Here I
merely note that Gods-Word
theorists must agree with me that
responsibility is a real condition. It
would be unintelligible for a theist to
say God spoke to m; I wonder who is
responsible for his speaking? or to
say, I praise God for what he says
but I dont know whether he is
responsible for what he says. Most
theists cannot reject my insistence on
the reality of responsibility.
May I
say I greatly value a magazine courageous
enough to entertain challenges to its
readers. And let me add that my
disagreements are aimed not at the heart
of religion but only its chains.
Michael A. King Responds
At
about age 12, perhaps because how else
does a missionary kid declare
independence, I concluded God did not
exist. My reasoning was by no means as
complex as that offered by Alan Soffin,
but it followed similar lines. Returning
to belief in God took me years and
involved pondering again and again to the
types of concerns Soffin raises.
What I
currently conclude is this: at the level
of logic, Soffin may well be right.
Soffin may help us understand, for
example, how it can be that millions or
even billions of people say that God
speaks to us, often through that form of
Gods Word called the Bible, and yet
what we hear God say is so different that
we are ever prepared to kill each
others souls and sometimes even
bodies in our dismay at the others
inability to hear God speak as we do.
But if
I may also honor the insight of my former
dissertation adviser Herb Simons (even
now that I need no longer attend to his
perspective to earn my degree!), I
believe Simons, agnostic though he is,
offers a fruitful way forward. Simons
speaks for those of us who want to claim
a meaningful relationship with God yet
who also believe Soffin rightly
underscores that typically to say
God speaks is to say
something along the lines of This
is how I, in my frail humanity,
understand God to speak. As I
understand Simons, he doubts
Soffins case is as strong when
applied not to those who claim to hear an
actual voice but to those who understand
that whatever of God we may hear is
inevitably mediated through our own frail
personhood.
I
concur. But what then of Soffins
reply on this point, which is basically
that no matter how we believe God speaks,
those of us who believe are still caught
in the impossibility of ever truly
hearing a voice beyond our own?
Here it
seems to me the main way forward for
those of us who want to affirm that we
hear God speak is that age-old word:
faith. The New Testament book of Hebrews
memorably states that faith is the
assurance of things hoped for, the
conviction of things not seen.
Faith involves leaping beyond the
evidence in a gamble that sometimes what
cannot be pinned down is as real as what
can be.
Faith
for me, then, means very nearly agreeing
with the central argument Soffin makes,
since I too believe that, so long as we
remain human, none of us can ever be sure
we have heard God speak. But faith also
means risking my life on the possibility
that breaking into my humanness, in ways
I can never entirely prove or validate,
comes that Voice from beyond.
Whatever
our respective conclusions, what a
pleasure it is to have opportunity to
clarify perspectives with Alan Soffin and
Herb Simons. My thanks to both of them
for readiness to be published in a very
different venue than they would normally
inhabit. With them, I echo the desire
that the conversation continue, and in
fact if, as we hope, replies are
forthcoming, it will be a pleasure to
print them in future issues of DreamSeeker
Magazine.
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